[Congressional Record Volume 171, Number 28 (Tuesday, February 11, 2025)]
[Senate]
[Pages S847-S855]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]



                      Nomination of Tulsi Gabbard

  Mr. PETERS. Mr. President, I rise in opposition to the nomination of 
former Representative Tulsi Gabbard to serve as our Nation's Director 
of National Intelligence.
  Intelligence is absolutely fundamental to our national security. Our 
intelligence community, spread out all across the Federal Government, 
has built the world's greatest network of information gathering and 
analysis. This information keeps us and our community safe by providing 
the people who make policy decisions with a full picture to understand 
the current as well as potential threats to our national security, from 
terrorism risks to our homeland to emerging conflicts across the globe.
  Spearheaded by the Director of National Intelligence, the U.S. 
intelligence community is responsible for monitoring terrorist 
activities, tracking foreign military capabilities, and even 
intercepting nefarious cyber attacks.
  The courageous men and women in this community, stationed both here 
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well as abroad, put their lives on the line to identify and neutralize 
espionage efforts against Americans by our foreign adversaries.
  Their work is absolutely critical, particularly in today's modern 
digital era where information is power. But the foundation of 
intelligence is trust.
  We must trust that our intelligence experts are providing completely 
unbiased, fact-driven analysis of the intelligence that our Agencies 
are collecting. Our experts must trust their ability to pursue 
intelligence that keeps Americans safe, wherever it may lead, without 
fear that discovery of the wrong issue might result in the end of their 
career. Our intelligence Agencies must trust that government officials 
will protect their sources and their methods to ensure that critical 
missions and safety of Americans all across the globe are not placed 
into jeopardy.
  Unfortunately, I do not believe that Tulsi Gabbard has the 
qualifications--nor has she earned our trust--to serve as Director of 
National Intelligence. She has spread conspiracy theories peddled by 
our adversaries. She claimed that those who were investigating domestic 
terrorism and the deadly January 6 insurrection were ``domestic 
enemies''--more dangerous than the individuals who violently stormed 
the U.S. Capitol, attacked law enforcement officers, and tried to 
overturn a free and fair election.
  She cannot differentiate between our adversaries and our allies, 
between those who seek to harm our country and those who seek to defend 
it. Time and time again, Ms. Gabbard has proven that she does not hold 
the judgment to serve as the leader of our intelligence community.
  Let's start with Russia. Start with Russia. As we know, Russia 
engaged in a widespread disinformation campaign before its deadly 
invasion of Ukraine in an attempt to justify its actions and manipulate 
public opinion. Russia actually claimed that the United States was to 
blame for the war for failing to recognize Russia's ``legitimate'' 
security concerns about Ukraine's accession to NATO. Tulsi Gabbard 
agrees with Putin and Russia. She said that the United States was 
entirely to blame for the war in Ukraine. Russian propaganda efforts 
also push lies that the United States was supporting bioweapons labs in 
Ukraine--a claim, by the way, that has been debunked by Ukraine's 
Government, the U.S. Government, news organizations, and independent 
researchers around the world. But Ms. Gabbard posted on her social 
media, in 2022, supporting this conspiracy and accusing the Biden-
Harris administration of a coverup.

  Former Republican U.S. Senator Mitt Romney called Ms. Gabbard's post 
treasonous, saying she was ``parroting fake Russian propaganda.''
  So now let's talk about Syria.
  Tulsi Gabbard has a long history defending former Syrian ruler Bashar 
al-Assad. In 2015, she even introduced a bill to end U.S. support to 
the opposition to the Assad regime. She didn't think the opposition to 
Assad, who is responsible for crimes against humanity and the deaths of 
hundreds of thousands of his own people, should be supported.
  Not only did she oppose the support, Gabbard then traveled to Syria 
and met with Assad in 2017. Gabbard tried to justify her meeting, going 
as far as to say that Assad is not the enemy of the United States.
  And despite U.S. intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard continued to turn a 
blind eye to Assad's horrific use of chemical weapons on civilians, 
claiming there was no real evidence linking this regime to those 
attacks, even though the intelligence community under the first Trump 
administration attributed these chemical attacks to the Assad regime.
  Ms. Gabbard has promised to ``end the politicization of the 
intelligence community,'' but what we have seen in just the last few 
weeks from the administration--in the name of freeing our government 
from politicization and weaponization--should certainly give us pause.
  This administration has fired dozens of prosecutors in a matter of 
days for doing their duty to provide justice on criminal cases stemming 
from the January 6 attack on our Nation's Capitol. The administration 
has also fired most of the senior leaders of the FBI and is trying to 
go after every single FBI agent who was involved investigating January 
6, even if they were just doing their job as ordered by their 
superiors.
  Let's be clear. January 6 was an attack on our Nation, our 
Constitution, and our democracy.
  But to be a part of the Trump administration, you have to show 
absolute loyalty to him over anything else. Don't worry about facts; 
just show loyalty. And don't worry about the law; just show loyalty.
  So this pattern certainly begs the question: With Ms. Gabbard at the 
helm, will the intelligence analysts and operatives who worked on 
investigations into January 6 or any other domestic terrorism plot--are 
they now going to be fired as well? Will Ms. Gabbard follow the lead of 
Trump's newly confirmed Attorney General and shut down U.S. efforts to 
collect intelligence on malicious foreign influences from our 
adversaries, like China and Russia? Will she penalize anyone who has 
been responsible for tracking our adversaries' misinformation and 
disinformation campaigns that target our elections? Will she stand up 
to President Trump if he seeks to use the powers of the U.S. 
intelligence community against the American people? Will individuals in 
the intelligence community who disagree with her views on Russia, 
Syria, or the threats of chemical and biological weapons be in danger 
of censorship or, worse, even retribution?
  We have no reason--no reason--to trust that Ms. Gabbard will not 
simply follow the lead of others in this administration and oust those 
who do their jobs to serve all the American people and not just Donald 
Trump.
  But in addition to this questionable lack of judgment on who our 
Nation's enemies are, Tulsi Gabbard is simply, simply, unqualified. 
Tulsi Gabbard does not have the extensive experience needed to oversee 
this highly complex network of intelligence operatives and analysts--
experience that Directors of National Intelligence, until this point, 
have all possessed because it is understood how essential this position 
is and why these qualifications are critical.
  There is broad, bipartisan consensus that we are facing one of the 
most dangerous times in American history. Threats from our adversaries, 
like the Chinese and Russian Governments, continue to grow and evolve 
with every passing minute. We need the person leading our intelligence 
community to be the most qualified candidate available. This is the 
person briefing our senior leaders, all the way up to the Commander in 
Chief, on the real threats that face our Nation each and every day. 
This is the person tasked with protecting our vast network of sources 
and highly classified methods of collecting information.
  We need someone we can trust to safeguard the tools that our 
intelligence Agencies need to access the darkest corners of the world, 
but also someone with the knowledge and understanding of this community 
to protect the brave Americans who are risking their lives gathering 
this information and intelligence firsthand, on the frontlines.
  We need someone who our allies will trust to share their own 
intelligence, to help protect our people and our interest, because 
without America's utmost confidence in Ms. Gabbard's ability to do this 
job, where will that leave us as a country? It will leave us in the 
dark, vulnerable against our adversaries. It will make our allies 
question whether or not they should share their intelligence with us 
because they do not know whether the head of our intelligence community 
will actually share that information with our adversaries instead of 
our allies. It will leave us with an intelligence community that is 
afraid to speak truth to power, or even just do their jobs for fear of 
offending the Trump administration and then getting fired.
  We are in unprecedented times with an administration that has shown 
that it is willing to break the law in order to break our government. 
We are in uncharted times, with an administration that would rather 
target our institutions than protect our people.
  We are in perilous times, with foreign adversaries waiting to pounce, 
as the administration strips away the tools that we have used to 
protect ourselves.
  Our national security is on the line. We cannot destroy our 
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keep our country safe by confirming someone whom we cannot trust to act 
in the United States' best interest or who simply lacks the necessary 
experience to lead this critical organization. That is why I am voting 
no on Ms. Gabbard's nomination, and I urge my colleagues to do the 
same.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Nevada.
  Ms. CORTEZ MASTO. Mr. President, almost 3 years ago, President 
Vladimir Putin launched a massive, illegal ground invasion of Ukraine, 
which has become the largest and deadliest conflict in Europe since 
World War II.
  Now, I have stood up, again and again, with my fellow Senators--
leaders of both parties--and our allies across the world to condemn 
Putin's war, which has killed thousands of civilians, including 
hundreds of children, and left millions of Ukrainians displaced. It is 
not a hard position to take.
  But Tulsi Gabbard has repeatedly justified Putin's expansionist war. 
She chose to blame the United States, our NATO allies, and even Ukraine 
itself for Putin's war.
  Now, Mr. Trump--excuse me; President Trump--wants Ms. Gabbard to be 
the Director of National Intelligence. The day the war started, she 
echoed Russian state media and said: The war could have been avoided if 
the U.S. and NATO had acknowledged Russia's ``legitimate'' security 
concerns.
  She made baseless claims that Russia was justified in invading 
Ukraine because the United States had secret biolabs there. Where did 
she find that claim? It came directly from a Kremlin propaganda 
website.
  The Director of National Intelligence position was created after the 
September 11 terrorist attacks to act as the principal adviser to the 
President, the National Security Council, and the Homeland Security 
Council on intelligence matters related to our national security.
  It seems obvious to anyone who holds this position that they should 
have extensive national security experience, something Ms. Gabbard 
doesn't have. And somebody who holds this position should not be 
parroting Russian talking points.
  Now, I have worked with colleagues on both sides of the aisle to make 
sure that Putin is held accountable for the atrocities that have been 
committed in Ukraine. It is shocking to me that we are on the cusp of 
confirming a Director of National Intelligence who was so quick to 
defend one of the United States' biggest adversaries.
  Now, cozying up to Putin would be bad enough, but, unfortunately, he 
is not the only autocrat that Ms. Gabbard has ties to. She also has an 
alarming connection to the ousted Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. 
Assad was a ruthless dictator who engaged in human right abuses, and 
that is a documented fact. But, inexplicably, Ms. Gabbard disputed 
credible accusations that Assad used chemical weapons against his 
citizens, and, worst of all, she actually chose to travel in her 
personal capacity to Syria to meet with this dictator in person. All 
the while, she repeatedly cast doubts on our intelligence community's 
assessment of the extent of the horrors of Assad's regime.
  Now, I understand the desire to seek out multiple points of view. 
But, again and again, Ms. Gabbard has taken healthy skepticism too far, 
suggesting to the American people that they can't trust our 
intelligence while, instead, echoing Russian and Syrian disinformation. 
That is just unacceptable.
  President Trump claims that he wants to make America safe. He says he 
wants to maintain American's standing in the world. He says he wants to 
forge stronger ties with our allies.
  Well, confirming Ms. Gabbard to be Director of National of 
Intelligence is in opposition to those goals. The Director of National 
Intelligence oversees 18 Agencies in the U.S. intelligence community, 
including the CIA and the NSA. The Director has the legal authority to 
direct intelligence gathering and choose which intelligence to share 
with foreign Agencies.
  As Director of National Intelligence, Ms. Gabbard would have access 
to our most closely guarded secrets. She would know the identities of 
the brave men and women who gather intelligence from our foreign 
adversaries. There should be absolutely no question about the 
trustworthiness or the judgment of our Director of National 
Intelligence.
  The Director of National Intelligence should not sympathize with 
autocrats, blame our allies for wars of aggression, or parrot Kremlin 
talking points. This is a low bar to clear.
  I am here in the Senate to represent the people of Nevada. They are 
relying on me to work to keep them and our community safe. And I tell 
you what: I pledge to help keep Nevada safe by opposing Ms. Gabbard's 
confirmation, and I hope my colleagues follow suit.
  I yield the floor.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from New Mexico.
  Mr. HEINRICH. Mr. President, every one of us remembers where we were 
when the first plane struck the World Trade Center the morning of 
September 11, 2001. On that day, we watched in horror as the North and 
South Towers fell, terrifying debris clouds flooding the ground beneath 
them. We witnessed the Pentagon, the heart of our national defense, 
engulfed in flames as a hijacked plane crashed into it head-on, taking 
the lives of all the people aboard that flight and over 125 employees 
in the building itself. Our hearts broke as we saw yet another plane go 
down in an open field in Pennsylvania, after brave Americans decided to 
fight back and regain control of the aircraft before it reached its 
intended target here in this very Capitol building.
  From that day forward, we pledged to never forget the nearly 3,000 
Americans who lost their lives that day and the thousands more who were 
first responders that have died since. That pledge led us to 
immediately establish a bipartisan commission devoted to understanding 
how our Nation's intelligence Agencies could have left us vulnerable to 
this attack.
  And the 9/11 Commission discovered that our intelligence community 
had received warnings about the dangers posed by al-Qaida but that a 
systemic lack of communication and coordination between intelligence 
Agencies that were effectively stovepiped off from one another had left 
glaring blindspots at the highest levels of our government. And to fix 
this, the Commission recommended that our government establish a new 
Cabinet-level position called the Director of National Intelligence, 
the DNI.
  The DNI is specifically dedicated to coordinating all of our 
intelligence-gathering operations that protect the safety and security 
of the American people. For the last two decades, the Director of 
National Intelligence has played a vital role in every administration 
as the leader of our intelligence community overseen in coordinating 18 
of our intelligence Agencies.
  The Director of National Intelligence is also one of the main voices 
that any President hears from, literally, each and every day. That is 
because the DNI serves not only as the coordinator of our intelligence 
community but as the compiler and presenter of the President's daily 
brief. This is the daily high-level, highly classified briefing on the 
most pressing and sensitive national security matters. This is where 
all of our Presidents have gathered critical information needed to make 
incredibly difficult military or foreign policy decisions. And it is 
where our Presidents learn about potential threats from our 
adversaries, from nonstate terrorist organizations, and to think 
through how to combat those.
  Put simply: Our national security depends on the person that we 
entrust in that role.
  In fact, we need to implicitly trust that this person is relying on 
and providing incredible and accurate information so that our country's 
Commander in Chief can make the decisions that will determine our 
security as a nation. As a member of the Senate Select Committee on 
Intelligence for the last 12 years, I do not say this lightly: I do not 
believe that Ms. Gabbard has demonstrated the judgment to merit our 
trust as Director of National Intelligence.
  Ms. Gabbard's statements and actions leading up to and during the 
confirmation process should make all of us question her qualifications 
for this essential national security role, and they should make us 
seriously question her basic judgment.
  Time and again, Ms. Gabbard has elevated conspiracy theories, 
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dictator's talking points, and repeatedly undermined our country's 
national security.
  Let me give you some specific examples of her statements and her 
legislative track record. In 2017, while she was still serving in the 
House of Representatives, Ms. Gabbard exercised seriously questionable 
judgment in scheduling a foreign trip into Bashar al-Assad's pariah 
state of Syria. This was after Assad had committed well-documented 
crimes against his own people, including the use of chemical weapons, 
and plummeted his country into a bloody civil war and devastating 
humanitarian crisis.
  Both before and after this trip, Ms. Gabbard undermined U.S. 
intelligence and echoed Russian and Syrian disinformation regarding 
Assad's use of chemical weapons on his own people. She has made 
statements that appear to defend Assad.
  For example, on February 6, 2019, Ms. Gabbard claimed in an interview 
that:

       Assad is not the enemy of the United States because Syria 
     does not pose a direct threat to the United States.

  This is a shockingly narrow view of threats to U.S. national 
security. During the course of Syria's civil war, Assad used chemical 
weapons more than 300 times against his own people, killing and 
wounding thousands. To this day, Syria has still not accounted for 
this.
  The U.S. has also described Syria as being in ``flagrant 
noncompliance'' with the Chemical Weapons Convention. And there is no 
question that Assad's regime posed a serious threat to international 
peace and security.
  It is mystifying to me how Ms. Gabbard could not understand this then 
and still, apparently, doesn't understand it today.
  Ms. Gabbard's 2020 Presidential campaign website stated that she 
remains ``skeptical'' about two particular chemical weapons attacks in 
Syria in 2017 and 2018. Her website wrongly stated that:

       Both attacks occurred in towns under the control of al-
     Qaeda-linked opposition forces. Both attacks resulted in 
     multiple civilian casualties, and both were immediately 
     blamed on the Assad government. However, there is evidence to 
     suggest that the attacks may have been staged by opposition 
     forces for the purpose of drawing the United States and the 
     West deeper into the war.

  Of course, there never was such evidence.
  Disturbingly, Ms. Gabbard decided to take the views of a discredited 
professor, who was himself taken in by a Syrian Australian YouTube 
influencer, that somehow the opposition forces had staged these 
chemical weapons attacks.
  As a Member of Congress, she could have taken the time to read the 
summary of a declassified U.S. intelligence report released the week 
after the 2017 attack, warning that claims shifting blame to rebel 
groups reflected the ``false narratives'' spread by Syria and its 
patron state, Russia.
  Instead of looking to the intelligence community for answers, Gabbard 
sought out fake intelligence, demonstrating her distrust in the very 
intelligence Agencies that she could soon coordinate and oversee.
  Her trip to Syria and her visit with Assad himself should be alarming 
to all of us. Normally, if any Member of Congress goes on a foreign 
fact-finding trip like this, we take precautions to not jeopardize our 
vital national security interests. We coordinate with the State 
Department. We coordinate with the Pentagon. We carefully account for 
our schedules. And we sure as hell make sure we are not giving a 
platform to state-sponsors of terrorism or terrorist leaders.
  Ms. Gabbard did none of these things on this rogue trip into Assad's 
Syria. In fact, she sat down for an unscheduled meeting with Assad 
himself, not once but twice. She also met with the Grand Mufti of 
Syria. The Grand Mufti was appointed in 2005 to be Syria's most senior 
Sunni Muslim cleric. In 2011, he threatened Western countries, 
including the United States, against taking military actions in Syria. 
And he said in his speech:

       I say to all of Europe, I say to America, we will set up 
     suicide bombers who are now in your countries.

  During her confirmation hearing last month, I asked Ms. Gabbard 
directly about this meeting with the Grand Mufti, Mr. Hassoun. She 
claimed that this was the first she had ever heard about Mr. Hassoun's 
threats to set up some suicide bombers to target America and our 
European allies. However, records from her congressional office suggest 
that almost immediately after returning from her controversial trip, 
she was fully aware that she had met with a leader with direct ties to 
terrorism.
  According to recent reporting in the Washington Post that helped to 
unearth these records right after she returned from Syria, Ms. Gabbard 
and her congressional staff worked feverishly to account for her 
meetings and official paperwork and to contain the political fallout. 
In the documents that the Post reviewed, Ms. Gabbard's staff asked her:

       Did you know you were meeting with people with direct ties 
     to terrorist organizations?

  And her response in those documents:

       Is this question re the Mufti?

  I want to be clear, I am not suggesting that Ms. Gabbard endorsed or 
endorses the despicable views or actions of this particular Syrian 
terrorist leader. What I am suggesting is that Ms. Gabbard's false 
denial to me in her confirmation hearing of any prior knowledge of this 
terrorist leader whom she personally met with should be evidence enough 
that we cannot trust her. And in the position that we are being asked 
to confirm her for, telling the whole truth accurately is the whole 
point.
  On top of this, Ms. Gabbard has repeatedly made public statements 
that echo Russian justification for Putin's unjustified, unprovoked 
invasion of Ukraine. She has blamed our NATO allies for failing to 
recognize Russia's ``legitimate security concerns.''
  Those are literally her words. And she has amplified Russia and 
Putin's disinformation campaigns alleging Ukraine's development of 
bioweapons.
  On February 23, 2022, Ms. Gabbard echoed Russian talking points 
blaming Putin's invasion of Ukraine on the Biden administration. 
Specifically, she tweeted:

       This war and suffering could have easily been avoided if 
     Biden Admin/NATO had simply acknowledged Russia's legitimate 
     security concerns regarding Ukraine's becoming a member of 
     NATO, which would mean U.S./NATO forces right on Russia's 
     border.

  As my colleague Senator Bennet said so powerfully as he pointed out 
at Ms. Gabbard's confirmation hearing, she sent this tweet at the very 
moment that Russian tanks were rolling over Ukraine's border, 
essentially saying that Vladimir Putin was justified invading the free 
nation of Ukraine.
  Then-Senate Intelligence Committee Vice Chair and now Secretary of 
State Marco Rubio tweeted in response saying, this is ``simply not 
true,'' noting that the week before the invasion, Putin once again 
demanded NATO leave every country that joined after 1997, including 
Bulgaria, Romania, and 12 others.
  Ms. Gabbard chose not to listen to the vice chair of the Intelligence 
Committee or the intelligence community itself, which had issued a 
declassified threat assessment two weeks prior. Ms. Gabbard decided, 
instead, to give the benefit of the doubt to Vladimir Putin. How can we 
trust that she won't do that again?
  Ms. Gabbard has also repeatedly praised Edward Snowden, a former 
National Security Agency contractor who fled to China and then to 
Russia after he was charged in 2013 with illegally exposing government 
surveillance methods and classified information.
  Ms. Gabbard has called him a ``brave whistleblower'' and even went so 
far as to introduce legislation in the House of Representatives to 
pardon Edward Snowden.
  In 2016, the House Intelligence Committee issued a declassified, 
scathing report that found Snowden leaked secrets that caused 
tremendous damage to U.S. national security. This included leaking 
secrets that protect American troops and American personnel overseas. 
As that report made clear, Snowden was not a whistleblower; he was and 
is a traitor to this Nation.
  Ms. Gabbard and anyone who is interested in understanding the impact 
of the leaked secrets has access to the declassified House Intelligence 
Committee report and many other public sources of information 
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believe her own sources of information instead and to this day will not 
say that Snowden betrayed this country.
  Let me be clear. Edward Snowden is not a whistleblower; he is a 
traitor. Ms. Gabbard should know this full well.
  If we confirm her as our next Director of National Intelligence, Ms. 
Gabbard will be responsible for transmitting lawful whistleblower 
complaints to Congress. Her past statements on Snowden reveal a 
deficient understanding of our Nation's whistleblower laws that should 
be patently disqualifying for any Director of National Intelligence, 
much less any national security appointee.
  When my colleagues on the Intelligence Committee pressed Ms. Gabbard 
during her confirmation hearing about whether her views had changed and 
if she would acknowledge that Mr. Snowden were a traitor, she refused. 
This is who we want to lead our intelligence community--someone who 
outright refuses to condemn the actions of someone who jeopardized our 
national security and put the lives of many members of our intelligence 
community and national security community at risk? It is hard to 
believe that we could be so reckless.
  Finally, Ms. Gabbard has also advocated for a full repeal of section 
702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or FISA. Section 702 
is one of our intelligence community's most important tools to 
effectively fight terrorism, disrupt foreign cyber attacks, impede drug 
trafficking, and protect U.S. troops serving abroad. Ms. Gabbard 
introduced a bill in the House that would have completely repealed 
section 702.
  I will be the first to say that there are reforms to section 702 that 
we should make to ensure that this law always focuses on the 
communications of foreign targets abroad and is never inadvertently 
used in a way that threatens the privacy of innocent Americans. In the 
past, including just last year, I worked closely with my colleagues to 
advance some of these reforms. A wholesale repeal of section 702, 
however, is a wildly out-of-step and dangerous proposal.
  Do we really want to confirm a Director of National Intelligence who 
has advocated for the dismantling of such a foundational source of 
foreign intelligence to protect our national security?
  Any number of Ms. Gabbard's statements or actions would be 
disqualifying for a nominee to lead our intelligence community and keep 
our President accurately informed on pressing national security 
matters. But I am not alone in raising concerns about this nomination. 
As with many of President Trump's unqualified nominees, I have heard 
from many New Mexicans--from many constituents in my own State--in 
opposition to Ms. Gabbard's nomination, and I want to take a moment to 
read to you from some of these letters that I have received.
  Addie from Mountainair wrote to me to share her concern about Ms. 
Gabbard's lack of experience to safeguard our Nation.
  Addie said:

       Running the DNI requires an unwavering commitment to 
     evidence-based decisionmaking, national security, and 
     independence from political or foreign influence. Tulsi 
     Gabbard has none of that. She is completely unfit for this 
     position.

  A constituent and former intelligence officer from Santa Fe who 
wished to remain anonymous is concerned how Ms. Gabbard's background 
will impact operations critical to defending the United States from 
foreign threats.
  This individual told me:

       As a retired intelligence officer, I urge you to do 
     everything you can to keep Tulsi Gabbard from becoming the 
     next [DNI]. Our allies will be reluctant to share 
     intelligence with her, as will our own intelligence 
     professionals, given her past support for Putin and for other 
     dictators. This is a job that needs to be filled by a serious 
     expert in intelligence and national security policy.

  Katy from Tularosa is troubled by Ms. Gabbard's past association with 
dictators and tyrants.
  Katy wrote to me:

       Tulsi Gabbard is known to have had sympathies for Russia 
     and has met with Bashar al-Assad, the unrepentant dictator 
     and war criminal. Her appointment threatens U.S. national 
     security.

  Gary, also from Tularosa, is a retired intelligence officer. Gary is 
worried about Ms. Gabbard's lack of national security experience and 
how it will affect efforts to safeguard the United States.
  Gary wrote:

       As a retired U.S. Air Force intelligence officer, I urge 
     you to use all [of] your influence to block Tulsi Gabbard as 
     the next Director of National Intelligence. She is absolutely 
     unqualified to assume this key position in the Intelligence 
     Community. To serve our nation, the DNI must have a deep 
     understanding of the strengths and limitations of the broad 
     array of civilian and military intelligence agencies. Only 
     then can the DNI lead effectively and offer unbiased counsel 
     to the President. Tulsi Gabbard has none of these 
     qualifications or experience.

  Walter from Santa Fe is a veteran who served as an intelligence 
officer as well. He wrote to me to convey his disgust with President 
Trump in putting individual loyalty over national security with his 
nomination.
  Walter said:

       I am appalled at President Trump putting individual loyalty 
     above competency in his appointments. While Ms. Gabbard is a 
     veteran, she lacks experience in the field of national 
     security, and her playing with conspiracy theories lacking 
     valid documentation raises serious questions about her 
     judgment.

  I agree with my constituents in New Mexico.
  Ms. Gabbard's poor judgment and lack of national security experience 
make her wholly unqualified to serve as our next Director of National 
Intelligence. Confirming her to this role will make our Nation less 
safe. For all of these reasons, I will not be supporting Ms. Gabbard's 
confirmation.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Rhode Island.
  Mr. WHITEHOUSE. Mr. President, I am here to speak in opposition to 
the nomination of Tulsi Gabbard to serve as the Director of National 
Intelligence of the United States of America.
  Setting aside her lack of qualifications and setting aside her rotten 
judgment, her nomination strikes me as being part of a pattern of 
unilateral disarmament by the Trump administration against Russia. One 
can hazard as to why this is happening, but the fact that it is 
happening seems hard to deny.
  In November 2024, the Washington Post wrote this:

       Gabbard's planned appointment as the head of national 
     intelligence elicited the most excitement in Russia because 
     she has been long regarded as a darling of the propagandist 
     Russian RT network, which amplified her sympathetic takes on 
     Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad and Putin.

  Russian state TV has called Ms. Gabbard ``our friend Tulsi.''
  The Russian newspaper Komsomolskaya Pravda published an op-ed, and it 
was titled ``The CIA and FBI are trembling: Why Trump protege Tulsi 
Gabbard will support Russia as head of National Intelligence.''
  So the Russians are telling us pretty plain and simple: She is with 
us.
  If you look at some of her behavior particularly relevant to the DNI 
position, she has constantly opposed section 702 of the Foreign 
Intelligence Surveillance Act, which is a key source of foreign 
intelligence for our national security and which--I guess I would have 
to say in this location--presumably is useful at getting intelligence 
on Russia.
  She is not alone. Over at the FBI, Trump's nominee for FBI Director, 
Kash Patel, we just found out was paid $25,000 by a Russian filmmaker 
with Kremlin ties to participate in a documentary attacking the FBI, 
which is an adversary of Russia's, which spends a great deal of time 
and effort keeping an eye on Russia's adverse intelligence activity in 
the United States.
  To make it worse, Kash Patel has said he wants to shut down what he 
calls the intel shops--the part of the FBI that would go after Russian 
intelligence operations and Russian criminal networks in the United 
States. He has even said he wants to shut down the FBI building and run 
everybody out into the field offices around the country. Well, guess 
what takes place at FBI Headquarters? Our intelligence and 
counterterrorism operations. If you empty that place out and you move 
everything out to the field where people are doing regular criminal 
work, it is another way of saying: We are going to shut down our 
intelligence operations.
  Just in the past week, since she has been in, Attorney General Bondi 
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Recovery Initiative, which has recovered billions of dollars in ill-
gotten gains from foreign kleptocrats--many Russian, many close to 
Vladimir Putin. She shut down DOJ's Task Force KleptoCapture, which is 
the entity that has been working to target the Russian oligarchs around 
Putin, seize their assets that have been used to support Putin in his 
illegal, brutal invasion of Ukraine, and take those assets and provide 
them to the Ukrainians for their rebuilding and defense.
  So a common theme here: Tulsi Gabbard wants to come in as ``our 
friend Tulsi,'' according to Russian state TV, to have the CIA and FBI 
trembling because she will support Russia. Kash Patel is coming into 
the FBI, who takes money from a Kremlin-associated filmmaker and 
promises to shut down or at least degrade our intelligence capabilities 
within the FBI. And Attorney General Bondi is busy over at the DOJ 
taking down the anti-kleptocracy initiatives that focus on Putin's 
little gang of oligarchs who prop him up. It is three for three in 
unilateral disarmament by the United States against Russia.
  There is a little history here that is worth going back to in 
evaluating all of this, and it includes that Russia interfered in the 
2016 election through a Kremlin-linked internet research agency. There 
has been a good deal of reporting on that, but since that reporting, 
there has been a persistent, rightwing Trump narrative to pretend that 
never existed, that there was no Trump-Russia thing, that Trump-Russia 
was a hoax.
  In fact, it was not a hoax. Trump-Russia was a thing, as a bipartisan 
report from the Senate Intelligence Committee pointed out. That 
bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee report found that Russian 
President Putin had ordered the Russian effort to hack computer 
networks and accounts that were affiliated with the Democratic Party 
and that were affiliated with the Democratic National Committee and 
that the purpose was to find and to leak information that would be 
damaging to Hillary Clinton in that election.
  Here is what the committee found. I quote the report, the bipartisan 
report:

       Moscow's intent was to harm the Clinton Campaign, tarnish 
     an expected Clinton presidential administration, help the 
     Trump Campaign after Trump became the presumptive Republican 
     nominee, and undermine the US democratic process.

  That was the finding of the U.S. intelligence community as well as 
the finding of the Senate Intelligence Committee.
  It went on. You remember that famous meeting where Trump took the 
Russian Ambassador and the Russian Foreign Minister right into the Oval 
Office and divulged to them highly classified information--highly-
classified information--which caused U.S. officials to warn that 
Trump's revelations jeopardized a key source of intelligence in the 
Islamic State. They had to ping out to other intelligence Agencies and 
to our officers in the field: Look out. Classified information has just 
been given to these Putin officials to try to shore up and defend our 
sources and methods.
  The Mueller report went to exhaustive effort, with all of the support 
of grand jury and senior FBI and Department of Justice officials, and 
they concluded that the Trump campaign both knew of and welcomed the 
Russian interference and expected to benefit from it.
  It even talked about obstruction of justice by President Trump. But 
what they concluded in talking about obstruction of justice by 
President Trump is that he could not be indicted as a sitting President 
and therefore it would not be fair to lay out the conclusion that he 
had committed this crime because he wouldn't have a process by which to 
acquit himself and to clear the accusation. But they certainly laid out 
plenty of evidence that was suggestive that had he been an ordinary 
individual, he would have been indicted, charged, and convicted for 
obstruction of justice relating to this whole Trump-Russia saga.
  Later, when he was asked about all this in a conversation about 
Vladimir Putin, he said in November of 2017 about Putin--he said: Putin 
``said he didn't meddle'' in the election. ``I asked him. . . . He said 
he absolutely did not meddle in our election. He did not do what they 
are saying he did.''
  Everybody in the intelligence community knew that he did, in fact, do 
what they are saying he did, but Trump, for some reason, some 
connection, some Trump-Russia connection, went with Putin rather than 
the U.S. law enforcement and intelligence services.
  The next year in Helsinki, Trump met privately with Putin for 2 
hours. We don't know what happened because they just met with their 
interpreters. Then they went out for a news conference, and there 
again, standing right next to Putin, he sided with him over our own 
intelligence Agencies. But the meddling was real, the meddling was 
documented, and the Mueller report helped document the meddling.
  If you go into the details, you see the subplots. Paul Manafort was 
Trump's 2016 campaign chairman. He was meeting regularly, communicating 
regularly with a Russian intelligence officer named Konstantin Kilimnik 
and with a Russian oligarch named Oleg Deripaska through the campaign.
  The Senate Intelligence Committee's bipartisan report found that on 
numerous occasions, Manafort sought to secretly share internal campaign 
information with Kilimnik. This did not end well for Paul Manafort; he 
was indicted by a Federal grand jury for the crime of conspiracy 
against the United States, convicted, and sentenced to more than 7 
years in prison--oh, except that Trump pardoned Manafort in late 2020.
  There was the infamous Trump Tower meeting in which Donald Trump, 
Jr., the same Paul Manafort, and son-in-law Jared Kushner met with 
Russian billionaire Emin Agalarov and a Russian lawyer connected to the 
Kremlin right in Trump Tower. The meeting came about because Donald 
Trump, Jr., had been told by a contact that the Russian Government 
wanted to offer--and I am quoting here--``official documents and 
information that would incriminate Hillary.'' Official documents and 
information from the Russian Government that would incriminate Hillary.
  The response:

       If it's what you say I love it.

  They went ahead to the meeting. Clearly, the Trump campaign's purpose 
for that meeting was to obtain from Russia incriminating information on 
Clinton to influence the election.
  The special counsel decided not to prosecute the attendees in part 
because it couldn't determine that that information would actually have 
been determinative because it related to orphans, and what didn't 
connect with the Trump attendees at that meeting was that the 
interruption of the orphans being delivered to the United States for 
parents who wanted to adopt them was the response to sanctions against 
oligarchs and people around Putin, and this was an effort to get the 
sanctions lifted.
  If you could crack the code, you would know that that is what the 
orphans conversation was about, because that is why the orphans 
blockade had been set up.
  Ultimately, Russia did, in fact, hack emails--both from the DNC and 
from the Clinton campaign chair. Russian intelligence got their hands 
on those documents.
  Here is what the Intelligence Committee wrote about that:

       Trump and senior Campaign officials sought to obtain 
     advanced information about WikiLeaks' planned releases 
     through Roger Stone. At their direction, Stone took action to 
     gain inside knowledge for the Campaign and shared his 
     purported knowledge directly with Trump and senior Campaign 
     officials on multiple occasions.

  This wasn't just a one-off; this was information being channeled 
through Roger Stone to the Trump campaign. It didn't end well for 
Stone. He was indicted and convicted on charges of lying to Congress 
about what he and then-Candidate Donald Trump knew about Russian 
efforts to discredit Hillary Clinton's campaign and witness tampering 
and obstruction.
  On we go to Carter Page, also associated with the campaign, who 
traveled to Moscow in that timeframe--July 2016--to deliver a 
commencement speech while working for the campaign. Russia's Deputy 
Prime Minister Arkady Dvorkovich there expressed ``strong support for 
Mr. Trump''--``strong support for Mr. Trump and a desire to work 
together.''
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traveling and told the Greek Foreign Minister that the Russians have 
``dirt'' on Hillary Clinton.
  So you have all these pieces coming together about the Russians 
seeking dirt on Hillary Clinton, getting it, leaking it through 
WikiLeaks, and constantly having a back channel through members of the 
Trump campaign.
  It didn't end well for Papadopoulos either. He was arrested for lying 
to FBI investigators and pleaded guilty. And, of course, Trump pardoned 
him too. Trying to cover up his traces.
  Michael Flynn in 2015 delivered remarks at a Moscow gala honoring 
Russia Today, RT, the same organization that Tulsi Gabbard was the 
darling of. He was seated at the gala next to Putin--next to Putin. He 
was paid $33,750 from RT--whose darling Tulsi Gabbard was--for this one 
speech. He didn't correctly report the payment. He ended up being paid 
more than $67,000 by Russian companies before the 2016 Presidential 
election.
  It didn't end well for him either. He lied to Vice President Pence 
and to the FBI about communications he was having with Russian 
Ambassador Sergey Kislyak about sanctions imposed by the Obama 
administration while President Obama was in office. Yes, the sanctions 
related to the orphans conversation at Trump Tower. Flynn pleaded 
guilty to lying to the FBI about that conversation, and, of course, 
Trump pardoned him days before Flynn was due to be sentenced.
  It is kind of an ongoing thing between Trump and Russia. A lot of us 
on both sides of the aisle are very concerned about what is going on in 
Ukraine--indeed, furious that Putin would launch his army into Ukraine 
and perform massive atrocities and war crimes: firing rockets into 
children's hospitals, having the soldiers murder through neighborhoods. 
It is a foul spectacle, and it started with Russia's invasion of 
Crimea, the so-called little green men.
  Trump thought that was all a pretty good thing. You will remember 
that the way they started it was to foment riots by Russian-speaking 
people in Crimea to provide a justification for coming over the 
border--sort of 1930s Europe style tactics coming back to us here. So 
that kicked it off. There were these demonstrations. Putin said ``Oh, 
my people, my people; they are being abused by those terrible 
Ukrainians,'' and in went the little green men.
  Here is how Trump praised Putin's invasion then of Crimea:

       When you see the riots in a country because they're hurting 
     the Russians, OK, `we'll go and take it over.' And he really 
     goes step by step, and you have to give him a lot of credit.

  And of course there is the famous comment to Russia publicly, saying:

       Russia, if you're listening--

  This was during the campaign--

       I hope you're able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are 
     missing. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by 
     our press.

  Then there were the episodes that I mentioned earlier where he said 
``No, Russia wasn't meddling in our elections'' despite the fact that 
everybody knew they were. But he took Putin's side in all of that.
  Most recently, he refused to condemn Putin for the death of Alexei 
Navalny, who had been such a brave fighter, standing up against the 
corrupt Putin regime, and died in a penal colony at the age of 47.
  For a long time, I have described the United States as being in a 
clash of civilizations with rule-of-law countries like ours on the one 
side and kleptocrats, autocrats, and governments run by criminal 
organizations like the narco-traffickers on the other side. Fairly 
simple clash--rule of law versus rule of thuggery.
  There ought to be bipartisan support for making sure that the United 
States does not become a safe haven for kleptocrats and criminals. We 
should not be giving aid and comfort to our enemies by allowing them to 
park their funds here in our country.
  We have made progress to combat the kleptocrats and the international 
criminals who are on the other side of this clash of civilizations. Ms. 
Gabbard is not on the right side of that clash, not when she is so 
chummy with Putin, not when she is so chummy with the murderer Bashar 
al-Assad, not when she is ``our darling Tulsi'' to Russian media 
channels, and not when she is lined up with Kash Patel, threatening to 
take down the FBI Offices that track Russia, taking money from a 
Russian filmmaker, and then stack that up with Attorney General Bondi 
taking down the kleptocracy and klepto-capture efforts at the DOJ that 
have been making the Russian oligarchs' lives miserable by going after 
their assets.
  One, two, three--all unilaterally disarming against Russia in the 
wake of all that time in which the Trump-Russia connection appeared 
over and over and over and over again. And as far as I can tell, still 
persists today.

  I see my colleague here on the Senate floor.
  I yield the floor.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Arizona.
  Mr. KELLY. Mr. President, today the Senate is deciding whether COL 
Tulsi Gabbard should be the person who, each day, makes the call on 
which intelligence gets in front of the President of the United States. 
That is what the Director of National Intelligence does. They sift 
through the intelligence collected and analyzed by all of our 
intelligence Agencies, from the CIA to the NSA, and decide what to 
brief the President on. This includes information about terrorists 
planning attacks here in the United States or on our servicemembers 
abroad. It includes evidence of adversaries backing cyber attacks.
  Often, the intelligence is incomplete, or there are pieces that 
contradict one another. It is this person's job to cut through the 
noise and present the President with what he needs to know.
  There can't be any spin. There can't be a finger on the scale to get 
him to do one thing or not do another. It requires impeccable judgment 
and sound decision making.
  Everything we have learned about Colonel Gabbard during her 
confirmation process suggests that she is not the person for this job. 
It is that simple.
  Now, I went into this process with an open mind. Colonel Gabbard and 
I, we had a long meeting in my office. She responded to a number of 
written follow-up questions that my colleagues and I had for her. And I 
was able to ask her questions in an open and closed hearing of the 
Senate Intelligence Committee.
  And after each of those steps, I became more and more concerned.
  Colonel Gabbard is often dismissive and has been, at times, outright 
hostile towards our intelligence community and the tools that it uses 
to protect this country.
  Now, I have a tremendous amount of respect for Colonel Gabbard's 
service to this Nation, and I do think that healthy skepticism is a 
good thing. It is something that I always valued in my crew members at 
NASA, and I value it today in the Senate.
  But that is not what we have seen from Colonel Gabbard. She has a 
track record of embracing overblown, flimsy claims that confirm her own 
viewpoint while easily dismissing the thorough assessments and the 
methods of our own intelligence community. That is not the person that 
we should want in this job.
  Now, let's start here with her record on Edward Snowden. Edward 
Snowden was a government contractor who stole and then leaked highly 
classified information from the National Security Agency in 2013. 
Snowden could have used whistleblower protections to securely and 
legally share concerns that he had about the legality of certain 
surveillance programs, but he didn't do that. Instead, he stole 
millions of documents--most of which didn't pertain to the programs 
that he had raised concerns about--and then he leaked them, without 
caring about what would the lasting damage be to our national security.
  After the Department of Justice revealed charges against him for 
committing espionage, Snowden fled to Russia, where he was welcomed 
with open arms.
  Edward Snowden exposed our government's secrets to the world, 
including to our adversaries. He put intelligence operatives and 
servicemembers around the world at risk, at great risk. And he made all 
of us less safe, and that is true even today. He should be in prison 
for betraying our country.
  COL Tulsi Gabbard wanted him to be pardoned. She introduced 
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drop all charges against Snowden and, unsurprisingly, it failed to gain 
support.
  This was in September of 2020, after he had been in Russia for nearly 
7 years, and after the House Intelligence Committee had released a 
bipartisan report to the public detailing about how he had broken the 
law and made our country less safe. This came after that.
  And she publicly lobbied President Trump to pardon Snowden during his 
first term. He didn't.
  And on October 6 of 2020, Gabbard called Snowden a brave 
whistleblower. Two weeks later, Vladimir Putin gave Snowden permanent 
residency in Russia.
  This should, obviously, be a great concern to anyone considering her 
for this job, and it is clear that Colonel Gabbard knew it would be an 
issue in her confirmation hearing. She knew that. So she came prepared 
with a well-practiced answer, and she used it, word for word, over and 
over again.
  Vice Chairman Warner's first question was whether she thinks Edward 
Snowden is brave. She said that Edward Snowden broke the law, but that 
he released information that led to reforms. She didn't mention the 
harm he did to our national security.
  He followed up. She started with the same answer. And on and on it 
went. Next, with Senator King.
  Then Senator Young asked if she agreed with the House Intelligence 
Committee report that Snowden caused damage to national security. She 
repeated the same answer she had given just before. At least eight 
times, by my count, as I sat there in the hearing room, she gave the 
same answer word for word.
  But the real moment of truth came when Senator Lankford of Oklahoma 
asked her what he himself has publicly said was a softball question, 
and the question was: Is Edward Snowden a traitor?
  It really should have been pretty easy. If you believe Edward Snowden 
broke the law and the law he broke is the Espionage Act, it is pretty 
clear that is exactly what he is. He is a traitor.
  She wouldn't answer.
  Senator Bennet gave her another opportunity. She didn't take it.
  Now, Colonel Gabbard came into our confirmation hearing with a plan 
to give the same nonanswer over and over about Edward Snowden, and she 
was counting on that being enough to skate by. It wasn't for me.
  And I still can't understand. To this day, I still can't figure it 
out, why she will not call this guy a traitor. Colonel Gabbard would be 
leading the men and women of our intelligence Agencies whose work and 
lives Edward Snowden put at risk.
  I ask my Republican colleagues: How can we entrust this 
responsibility with someone who wanted to free Edward Snowden and 
still, to this day, cannot say whether or not he is a traitor?
  For a lot of nominees, that would be a way big enough issue to 
prevent them from getting this job. That is pretty clear. But so, too, 
would her hostility toward FISA 702, one of the most important 
intelligence collection tools that we have. This is the program that 
enables us to monitor the communications of foreign actors outside of 
the United States. It has stopped terror attacks. It has protected 
American troops serving abroad. About 60 percent of the President's 
brief every single day is derived from intelligence that is gathered 
from this program, the very brief that Colonel Gabbard would be 
responsible for compiling every single day. Without it, we would be 
exposed. We would be less able to detect and prevent terror attacks or 
other attacks against the American people.
  But that is exactly what Colonel Gabbard tried to do. She voted 
against reauthorizing this program in 2018. And in 2020, she introduced 
legislation to repeal it--all of it. Not just the piece--the piece of 
it that Congress was debating how to reform, she wanted to just get rid 
of the whole thing, all of it. And when she advocated for doing away 
with the program, she made false statements about how it works and how 
it impacts American citizens.
  This should be a concern for anyone being considered for this job. 
Because while the Senate Intelligence Committee has a range of views on 
how this program should work, none of us on the committee, on either 
side of the aisle, has any interest in getting rid of it because we 
know how important it is, how critical it is to the safety of all of 
us. In fact, we came together with others in Congress to deliver 
reforms that further protect our civil liberties as Americans while 
retaining the tools our President needs to stay ahead of threats.
  Once again, Colonel Gabbard knew that this would be an issue with her 
confirmation. And, again, she bet that she could just say as little as 
possible to just get by. That is why, in a written response to the 
committee, she said:

       My prior concerns about FISA were based on insufficient 
     protections for civil liberties . . . Significant FISA 
     reforms have been enacted since my time in Congress to 
     address these issues.

  Sounds reasonable. Well, here is the problem. Just last year, she was 
on a podcast trashing those very reforms she is now saying back up her 
position on FISA. She said:

       This legislation that was just passed recently expanded 
     those authorities . . . in some other ways, it took an 
     already bad problem and made it many, many times worse.

  So which is it? Did these reforms fix the issues she had with FISA, 
as she said in her written response? Or did they make the problem 
worse, as she said on the podcast? It can't be both.
  Colonel Gabbard was asked about this inconsistency during her 
confirmation hearing, and she couldn't answer for it. In fact, she 
couldn't answer for what these reforms are and how they address her 
concerns or don't.
  And, folks, this is not trivial. The Director of National 
Intelligence works with the Attorney General to assess compliance with 
the law and improve internal procedures that decide how the 
intelligence community will collect, use, and store foreign 
intelligence to combat threats like terrorism while ensuring Americans' 
constitutional rights are protected. That means Colonel Gabbard would 
be responsible for implementing these reforms and advising Congress on 
their effectiveness.

  Finally, as we are all aware--well, all of us in the Senate, we are 
aware--this program is up for reauthorization in just over a year. 
President Trump has been all over the map on this program, but as 
recently as last year, he told Congress to kill FISA. The next Director 
of National Intelligence is going to play a critical role in advising 
the President and making recommendations to Congress about this 
program, FISA. Do we really trust that Colonel Gabbard will fight to 
protect this program, given her track record on this?
  I know I don't. That, too, should be disqualifying for this job.
  But the last example of Colonel Gabbard's hostility toward the 
intelligence community is the one that should give everyone the most 
concern. It is for me. As I said earlier, the primary responsibility of 
this job is to coordinate across 18 intelligence organizations and sift 
through intelligence, make some sense of it, and decide what to take to 
the President of the United States. In her confirmation hearing, I 
asked Colonel Gabbard: What does a good process look like?
  And her answer to this question--it was fine. She said: Build a 
strong team, welcome dissenting voices, and make sure the truth is 
reported.
  That is great. But then we got into a real-life example when she had 
sought out the intel, claimed to be reporting the truth, and then got 
it wrong. That is where, for me, it was obvious she is not the right 
fit for this job.
  Colonel Gabbard accepts the conclusion that former Syrian President 
Bashar al-Assad used chemical weapons against his own people, except 
for two incidents. She has publicly disputed the confident conclusion 
of our intelligence community and international experts that Assad used 
chemical weapons in Khan Shaykhun in 2017 and in Douma, both in Syria, 
in 2018. She authored a report--this was put on her campaign website--
questioning whether these attacks were staged by anti-Assad groups, 
despite the repeated determinations that this was yet another incident 
of him murdering his own citizens.
  You might be asking yourself: Why? Why did Colonel Gabbard go to such 
great lengths to sow doubt about these two attacks, knowing that it 
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did she doubt our intelligence community's conclusion in these two 
cases, but not the others?
  Well, I asked her, and here is how that answer began. This is a quote 
from Colonel Gabbard:

       These two cases are being looked at to be used as a pretext 
     for major military movement. And another--my fear was a 
     repeat of the deployment of another half million soldiers 
     like we saw in Iraq towards what was the Obama 
     administration's goals, which was regime change in Syria.

  Setting aside that Obama didn't deploy a half million soldiers to 
Syria, here is the problem. By her own admission, Colonel Gabbard's 
doubts about U.S. intelligence in these two situations began with her 
disagreements about how the intelligence was going to be used. She 
didn't want the United States and our allies to strike Syria as 
punishment for these chemical weapons attacks. So instead of making a 
strong argument on the policy, she tried to question whether the 
attacks happened in the first place.
  Colonel Gabbard also invoked the Iraq war. She is right. We needed to 
learn important lessons from the lead-up to the invasion. The biggest 
lesson was to carefully follow the intelligence where it actually 
leads, rather than bending it to fit the outcome that you want, which 
is exactly what Colonel Gabbard did in this case.
  It is that simple, folks, and it is also that dangerous, especially 
for someone in this job. If she has already disputed intelligence 
because of how it would be used, would she do it again in this 
position--the position of the Director of National Intelligence? She is 
the person deciding what the President would see.
  Would she withhold information or would she seek out confirmation 
without regard for whom it came from or that her viewpoint was correct? 
Because that is what she did in this case--the report she authored 
questioning whether these attacks were staged relied on a professor 
without expertise in chemical weapons. His theories in this case were 
deeply flawed and have been widely debunked by experts.
  I asked Colonel Gabbard if she was aware that this professor had 
appeared on Russian propaganda news stations. She said she had no idea.
  To produce his findings, this professor relied on an Australian 
chemistry student with a history of defending the Assad regime. I asked 
her if she was aware of that. She said she was not--not at the time--
but since she has been made aware.
  Here is what that tells me: Colonel Gabbard was unwilling to even 
examine, let alone weigh, the biases and shortcomings of the sources 
she was seeking out and elevating. She embraced these people and their 
half-baked theories because they confirmed what she wanted to be true--
that Assad didn't gas his own people in these two cases. She wanted it 
to be true so badly that, 5 years later, she says that she was still 
unaware of the facts of their background--facts that me and my staff 
found with some rather routine searching of public information. It was 
not hard.
  And she trusted and further publicized their claims without 
verification, despite our government making clear that Assad and Russia 
would attempt to raise these sorts of questions and theories to 
distract America and our allies.
  Mr. President, if that is not a redflag, I don't know what is. Still, 
5 years later, Colonel Gabbard came before the U.S. Senate Intelligence 
Committee and repeated all of this as if it weren't in contention. She 
continues to apply less skepticism toward these sources and narratives 
than the assessments of American intelligence operatives, professionals 
who have a ton of experience at this and whom she is nominated to 
lead--all because they support her point of view: The United States 
should not have struck Syria in retaliation for their use of chemical 
weapons. That is why she believed the people online.
  Now, that kind of reverse engineering to try to steer a policy 
outcome is dangerous in a job like this.
  Mr. President, the next couple of years are going to be challenging 
for our national security. I think we all agree upon that. We face 
threats that grow more complicated each and every day. And our 
intelligence community, they are the best in the world. They are really 
good at gathering intelligence of all kinds. The hardest part is 
sifting through that information and making some sense of what it all 
means, making determinations. That is what this job is all about. And 
everything we have seen from Colonel Gabbard throughout this process 
suggests that she is the wrong person for this job.
  She lifted up Edward Snowden as a hero and is unwilling to call him a 
traitor. She tried to get rid of one of the most important intelligence 
collection tools that we have and has contradicted herself when 
answering for it. And most central to this role, she has displayed poor 
judgment and poor decision making when assessing intelligence, 
especially when it comes to chemical weapons use in Syria.
  Each of these--each one of them on their own--should be disqualifying 
for holding this job. Taken together, they paint a picture of someone 
who is especially ill-suited and unprepared to take on this 
responsibility.
  I know that these concerns are shared by my Republican colleagues. So 
let's be honest about it. Let's say no to the political pressure. And 
let's put our national security first, and let's vote no on this 
nominee.
  I yield the floor.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Wyoming.

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